did mr. satan break the normal human barrier ?

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did mr. satan break the normal human barrier ?
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Shazam	Jun 27 2014, 03:49 PM Post #31
The Knight Who Say Ni Posts: 163 Group: Member Member #11,415 Joined: June 8, 2014 Favourite Anime The Irresponsible Captain Tylor What Browser do you use? firefox	Ketchup Revenge Jun 26 2014, 11:47 PM Toriyama in his most recent interview translated by SaiyaJedi and Herms stated that Mr. Satan was really strong for an ordinary human, but he never stated if Mr. Satan actually broke the human barrier: Quote: How did Mr. Satan win the Tenkaichi Budokai when Goku & co. weren't around? He didn't cheat, did he...? -No no, Mr. Satan really is strong. On an ordinary human level, that is. If a monstrously strong opponent turned up, he'd pretend he wasn't feeling well and sit out the match. reference that sentence doesnt say anything about the ordinary human barrier. when he Toriyama says "monstrously strong" he probably means DBZ-villain-strong. mr. satan dodged kid buu's attack. it says something. very high endurance, speed and strength can show he might have passed it. dbz characters are far stronger than before. every dbz fighter can stop a tank. and after kami's training in sayian saga, their level jumped even higher. Edited by Shazam*, Jun 27 2014, 03:51 PM.



Goddess Ultimecia	Jun 27 2014, 04:38 PM Post #32
Posts: 10,145 Group: RP Moderator Member #8,473 Joined: October 26, 2012 Gender Male Country None	Strong on a Human level is vague, and doesn't mean he surpassed the human barrier, And if memory serves wasn't Good Boo was restraining Kid Boo when it came to Mr.Satan... Monstrously strong could also refer to only DB tier characters as well...Mr.Satan is a downright coward.
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Alex D. Boss	Jun 27 2014, 05:04 PM Post #33
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	Satan isn't even the strongest of the ordinairy human world. I don't even think Satan can take that fat blob who fought Krillin head on.



+ Clearin	Jun 27 2014, 05:15 PM Post #34
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	The 21st Budokai features too many super human feats, like Nam and Goku jumping...God knows how many feet into the air. Dragon Ball in general was just a lot "sillier" back then, which made all the characters insanely strong by real standards. Even Yamcha managed to hit Goku with enough force to sending him flying through large rocks. When DBZ comes around regular humans (read: Non-Z fighters/supporters) are more realistic, however Mr Satan is among the top of these realistic powers. He still holds the record for the strongest regular human punch, and in fact some people were getting as low as 69 (compared to Mr Satan's 139), that's less than half of Mr Satan's strength, and obviously if this person is entering the tournament he's going to be stronger than a regular human. In other words Mr Satan *2> Weaker Martial Artist > Regular Human



+ Pyrus	Jun 28 2014, 02:16 AM Post #35
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Clearin Jun 27 2014, 05:15 PM The 21st Budokai features too many super human feats, like Nam and Goku jumping...God knows how many feet into the air. Dragon Ball in general was just a lot "sillier" back then, which made all the characters insanely strong by real standards. Even Yamcha managed to hit Goku with enough force to sending him flying through large rocks. When DBZ comes around regular humans (read: Non-Z fighters/supporters) are more realistic, however Mr Satan is among the top of these realistic powers. He still holds the record for the strongest regular human punch, and in fact some people were getting as low as 69 (compared to Mr Satan's 139), that's less than half of Mr Satan's strength, and obviously if this person is entering the tournament he's going to be stronger than a regular human. In other words Mr Satan *2> Weaker Martial Artist > Regular Human I want to add that that doesn't mean Mister Satan is twice as strong ki-wise as a weaker martial artist who is stronger than the regular human. That punching machine wasn't gauging ki.
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DSTREET45	Jun 28 2014, 03:32 AM Post #36
Posts: 883 Group: Member Member #9,779 Joined: July 21, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball/Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Yu Yu Hakusho	Pyrus Jun 28 2014, 02:16 AM Clearin Jun 27 2014, 05:15 PM The 21st Budokai features too many super human feats, like Nam and Goku jumping...God knows how many feet into the air. Dragon Ball in general was just a lot "sillier" back then, which made all the characters insanely strong by real standards. Even Yamcha managed to hit Goku with enough force to sending him flying through large rocks. When DBZ comes around regular humans (read: Non-Z fighters/supporters) are more realistic, however Mr Satan is among the top of these realistic powers. He still holds the record for the strongest regular human punch, and in fact some people were getting as low as 69 (compared to Mr Satan's 139), that's less than half of Mr Satan's strength, and obviously if this person is entering the tournament he's going to be stronger than a regular human. In other words Mr Satan *2> Weaker Martial Artist > Regular Human I want to add that that doesn't mean Mister Satan is twice as strong ki-wise as a weaker martial artist who is stronger than the regular human. That punching machine wasn't gauging ki. It doesn't matter. Do you really expect any of those guys to be ki specialists?



+ Pyrus	Jun 28 2014, 03:37 AM Post #37
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	DSTREET45 Jun 28 2014, 03:32 AM Pyrus Jun 28 2014, 02:16 AM Clearin Jun 27 2014, 05:15 PM The 21st Budokai features too many super human feats, like Nam and Goku jumping...God knows how many feet into the air. Dragon Ball in general was just a lot "sillier" back then, which made all the characters insanely strong by real standards. Even Yamcha managed to hit Goku with enough force to sending him flying through large rocks. When DBZ comes around regular humans (read: Non-Z fighters/supporters) are more realistic, however Mr Satan is among the top of these realistic powers. He still holds the record for the strongest regular human punch, and in fact some people were getting as low as 69 (compared to Mr Satan's 139), that's less than half of Mr Satan's strength, and obviously if this person is entering the tournament he's going to be stronger than a regular human. In other words Mr Satan *2> Weaker Martial Artist > Regular Human I want to add that that doesn't mean Mister Satan is twice as strong ki-wise as a weaker martial artist who is stronger than the regular human. That punching machine wasn't gauging ki. It doesn't matter. Do you really expect any of those guys to be ki specialists? If it doesn't matter, what are you arguing with me for?
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DSTREET45	Jun 28 2014, 04:28 AM Post #38
Posts: 883 Group: Member Member #9,779 Joined: July 21, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball/Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Yu Yu Hakusho	Pyrus Jun 28 2014, 03:37 AM DSTREET45 Jun 28 2014, 03:32 AM Pyrus Jun 28 2014, 02:16 AM Clearin Jun 27 2014, 05:15 PM The 21st Budokai features too many super human feats, like Nam and Goku jumping...God knows how many feet into the air. Dragon Ball in general was just a lot "sillier" back then, which made all the characters insanely strong by real standards. Even Yamcha managed to hit Goku with enough force to sending him flying through large rocks. When DBZ comes around regular humans (read: Non-Z fighters/supporters) are more realistic, however Mr Satan is among the top of these realistic powers. He still holds the record for the strongest regular human punch, and in fact some people were getting as low as 69 (compared to Mr Satan's 139), that's less than half of Mr Satan's strength, and obviously if this person is entering the tournament he's going to be stronger than a regular human. In other words Mr Satan *2> Weaker Martial Artist > Regular Human I want to add that that doesn't mean Mister Satan is twice as strong ki-wise as a weaker martial artist who is stronger than the regular human. That punching machine wasn't gauging ki. It doesn't matter. Do you really expect any of those guys to be ki specialists? If it doesn't matter, what are you arguing with me for? Who said I was arguing with you?



Shazam	Jun 28 2014, 01:46 PM Post #39
The Knight Who Say Ni Posts: 163 Group: Member Member #11,415 Joined: June 8, 2014 Favourite Anime The Irresponsible Captain Tylor What Browser do you use? firefox	if you talk about ki then you should know ki exists in every living thing, if they know it or not it doesnt matter. its possible for freeza to have huge ki pool but never be told of its existence. its true that majin buu had big effect on the attack but it doesnt change the fact the control was still under kid buu, and that means to dodge attack his attack, even a slow one, you have to have something in you. mr. satan is no coward, its just that there is a limit for what can be scary. he is willing to attack people with firearms with bare hands. personally im not sure if i am willing to attack people with guns but im certain i would s my pants if i saw buu fights 5 meters away from me. Edited by Shazam**, Jun 28 2014, 02:22 PM.



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